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Saturday, May 31, 2008

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Democratic Party attemps to resolve delegate debate

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ApostasyUSA

Please.....dems take the cake.........Hill is cool...it was a good contest.......there is nothing wrong with competition. I mean come on......look at the GOP "winner take all" system.......maybe if the Republicans had a more Democratic system they wouldn't be in such the crapper right now..............but for real......why in hell would I vote for the tragedians? The way I see it, the GOP lost all concept of justice. Democrats on the other hand, are on top of things, still pro-choice, pro-consumer, pro-education, pro-civil liberties, pro-net-neutrality!!!, pro-healthcare, pro-gay rights, pro-environment, anti poverty, anti Iraq war, anti trying to teach our kids ID in science class rooms.............the way the world looks to me right now.........and believe me...I've been paying close attention to our leaders these last 15 years................. I can tell you in no uncertain terms.......that ONLY Democrats will get my vote....and the Democrats win in 08.....there is no debate.
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2ez2c

So all-or-nothing Hillary supporters will defect and vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't win the nomination. Sounds more like a cult than a party affiliation! Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind! http://klintons.com
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teledaddy

Please. This has been settled for a long time. Everyone agreed that if they moved up their primary, they would be penalized. The democratic party does not need these people. Let them defect and Hillary probably couldn't win a national Dog-Catcher race. She needs to heal this wound and unite this party so we can get down to business.
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larry_oregon

duh, They were all republicans anyway.
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e_nelson

Two very big problems with Hillary's arguments that she is winning the popular vote. 1) The democratic nomination process is NOT based on the popular vote. It has been based on state delegates for decades. If you want to change this rule you needed to do that before the nomination process started not at the end when you realized you were losing. It is like saying after you lost a football game by 21-17 and you decide arbitrarily to say that a touchdown no longer counts for 6 points but rather 4 points. How actually thinks that is fair?? 2) Second point is if you even had an argument for the popular vote case you are not counting all the votes in the caucus states as they don't record popular vote. So now you are disenfranchising all the caucus states. But apparently Hillary doesn't care about them because that would not help her losing case.
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Brittanicus

Our economy is really going to to be on the dung pile, if Obama wins? He directly told the general public that he becomes president, he will sign into law a new AMNESTY. Although none of the Presidential contenders can be really trusted, Obama will be true to his word. That means if Democrats don't get to gut the border fence, as they are right now? The raw truth is it will not matter? As taxpayers will be forced by federal law to support the 15 to 38 million illegal immigrants already here. That means big business has won and they just collect the profits. While the man or women in the street will have a giant financial yoke around their neck, to pay billions in even more welfare programs. Senator Obama will have condemned America to a bleak future, for not only subsidizing millions of poor, non-English speaking, uneducated foreign nationals. Our government skims quietly of your wage packet 356 billion dollars, to support illegal low income workers annually and appease big business and that cost will become a pittance. The compounding effect is millions of more itinerant labor and families, will breach the border and no patrol, or army will be able to stop the momentum. Thats why we must stop OBAMA with the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R.4088) Tell your Democratic representative to sponsor it now. January 2009 will be far too late!
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ericmiami

Quite plainly, the Bosnia snipers caused Hillary to suffer from PTSD. She needs to go home and get treatment at her nearest VA hospital. Get well, Hillary!
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HaroldReimann

Let Obama win. Let the end come quickly.
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eydie1963

Hey Teledaddy, I find your remarks very offensive and tasteless. I've been a Democrat for 26 yrs and have always supported EVERY nominee and look what its gotten us BUSH.......You think its bad now just wait till Obama is the nominee, he is just another puppet, this time for the losers, ie Kerry, Gore, Edwards, Kennedy, Mondale, Dukakis etc. GET the Picture, none of them had the will to FIGHT and HILLARY does, so take your comment and shove it
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NateRock

I suppose that people's comfortability with McCain if they are forced to leave their precious Hillary behind is really only more evidence of the fact that there is very little difference between the Democrats and the Republicans when it boils right down to it. As for me, anything different could only provide a window of opportunity---and I am a middle-aged; working class white man with only 1 year of college under my belt. Obama looks pretty darn good to me! McCain? forget it! Hillary---well, ok, I'll take it if I have to; but Obama at least touches upon the things that matter the most to me personally.
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hejira45

I am really sick and tired of hearing women say the media, the Democratic leadership, and whoever else is shutting out the female demographic. As a middle-aged white woman with an annual household income no higher than $60,000 for the three of us, I am supposed to be in the HRC camp. I have been a supporter of Obama all along, and while up until the past few days I was willing to settle for HRC, there isn't a chance. I will not vote for McCain, but I find the behavior of HRC, her minions and her followers just as disturbing as I found the Bush-Cheney worshippers previously. These supposed feminists are acting like the very victims I feel I have worked hard to not allow myself to be as a woman. Stop your whining. Florida and Michigan knew the rules and they ignored them. People should be screaming at their State leadership, not the National group. Work to change the rules if you don't like them, but you have zero credibility if you know what they are, ignore them and then whine about it!
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dfs

Neither poliical party is a monolith, both are coalitions of a large number of special interest groups each pursuing its own agenda. Once in a long a while either party can suffer a great sea-change where a coalition falls apart. This is what seems to be happening to the Democrats now. What had seemed like a solid coalition of women and minorities, joined by their common opposition to The Man, is coming apart because it turns out that in 2008 they have incompatible agendas. Not a good time to be a Democrat. And if at the moment the Democrats aren't able to keep their own affairs in order, they're not in very good shape to govern the country.
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ForIAmBill

I don't know how I feel about the whole issue. All I know is that the DNC doesn't have the whole idea of democracy down. The process by which a candidate is chosen is horribly flawed. It gives too many people too much power - by way of the superdelegates. Regardless of the outcome of individual states, this elite core of voters can change the outcome of a race. How is that democratic? It is another instance of how our country-wide democracy has been hijacked by this 'I want to be on the winning team!' mentality. I would much prefer a straight popular vote, the unregistation of all voters and a choice of candidates that reaches into the hundreds. This would serve the country far better than the current methods. It would also be nice if we all held the Diebold and its ilk responsible for their failings in the the counting of votes.
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bluedoctor

Frankly its bizarre that Clinton supporters are threatening to vote McCain in the general election. McCain has an opposing view with Clinton on virtually every single issue. While Obama's positions are extremely similar. Clinton supporters are being far too emotional in their thinking. While I don't think that McCain = Bush, I do believe that just about every member of a McCain presidential administration would be made up of those that served the Bush administration. Therefore to vote McCain is to support the continuance of Bush policies. If you really don't like the policymaking of the Bush administration, voting for McCain is not a very good idea. On another topic, I now see the foolishness of Dean's decision to revoke the delegates of FL and MI. I suppose Dean himself now realizes that he should have done as the GOP had with FL, and decided to take away half the delegates. That would have avoided all this negativity going on right now. I was a Dean supporter in the 2004 primaries, but his rash decision has really fostered a negative environment during this election season.
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doublehook

I am for the voters and their votes of MI and FL. I do not believe that the SuperDs should obtain any preferential treatment. It is the SuperD type personalities that have put the MI and FL voters before the DNC firing squad. No matter whom I support in the GE, here and now is time for the voters of MI and FL to be supported. To heck with BHO and HRC. Take it to the DNC floor for a vote of the basic delegates not the SuperDs. The public has the right not the SuperDs. Although this may be contrued as an oxymoron, take the politics out of this equation and remember the voters.
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